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talkpoliticsTeri Adams, Head of Independence Hall Tea Party and School Voucher Activist:
Our ultimate goal is to shut down public schools and have private schools only, eventually returning responsibility for payment to parents and private charities. It’s going to happen piecemeal and not overnight. It took us years to get into this mess and it’s going to take years to get out of it.
In other words, Adams would like education to be, along with medical care, available only to those who can pony up the cash for it.
The article I’ve linked to includes a few quotes from people speculating about what drives the American right’s hostility towards public education. The ban on teacher-led prayer is invoked, along with the mercenary desire to funnel the money now paid into public schools into private hands.
I suspect it’s much more simple than that. Without universal education, the far right wouldn’t have to contend with so many pesky arguments about the facts of history, math, science, etc.
Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes
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Date: 18/7/11 22:23 (UTC)They're not run by capitalists seeking to make a dollar. They're not even run for profit.
Absurd analogy guy strikes yet again!
Pop-up restaurants would be liable if they poisoned people, by the way. Obviously there could not be this huge outbreak of salmonella, because pop-up restaurants would be shut down if they were causing people to get sick. UNDER REGULATION. You know, because we have these fancy regulations that make people liable for poisoning their clients? I guess you'd rather do away with all that and just let market forces starve their business dry for their 10% chance of making someone sick. Such a lot percentage, we can just ignore the people complaining. The free market wins again!
Why do you want me to eat moldy ketchup?
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Date: 18/7/11 22:58 (UTC)So you're either wrong, or you're wrong. Your pick.
They're run by professional chefs. Their clientele are food enthusiasts. If your example of an entire food regulation system can be summed up by activities by hobbyists, you don't have a leg to stand on.
Civil liability for poisoning someone is not a function of a regulatory system. It's a function of a compensatory judicial system.
Why is a compensatory judicial system mutually exclusive from a regulatory system? People get compensated because other people break regulations. They're not two separate things.
I'm pretty sure when a company breaks regulations, people who bought a product that was not up to regulation will be compensated, and the person who broke the regulation is fined/penalized. That's generally how it works.
No wonder you're against regulations, you have no idea how they work!
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Date: 19/7/11 00:37 (UTC)There were no regulations on the temperature you could sell coffee and yet here we are. Compensation has to do with culpability and not regulatory violations.
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Date: 19/7/11 00:16 (UTC)"Here is an example of it having happened"
"Yea well allow me to over-expand the example to try and refute it."
"Yea, but the scenario you said was impossible still happened."
"No it didn't. Clearly"
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Date: 19/7/11 02:33 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 19/7/11 19:38 (UTC)