[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Teri Adams, Head of Independence Hall Tea Party and School Voucher Activist:

Our ultimate goal is to shut down public schools and have private schools only, eventually returning responsibility for payment to parents and private charities. It’s going to happen piecemeal and not overnight. It took us years to get into this mess and it’s going to take years to get out of it.



In other words, Adams would like education to be, along with medical care, available only to those who can pony up the cash for it.

The article I’ve linked to includes a few quotes from people speculating about what drives the American right’s hostility towards public education. The ban on teacher-led prayer is invoked, along with the mercenary desire to funnel the money now paid into public schools into private hands.

I suspect it’s much more simple than that. Without universal education, the far right wouldn’t have to contend with so many pesky arguments about the facts of history, math, science, etc.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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Re: If you're serious...

Date: 16/7/11 21:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foreverbeach.livejournal.com
http://ezinearticles.com/?Functional-Illiteracy---Its-Shocking-Extent-and-Seriousness---Its-Proven-Solution&id=3892355

http://www.intellectualtakeout.org/library/literacy/functional-illiteracy-and-literacy-problems-america

The U.S. Department of Education (USDOE) estimates that functional illiteracy affects 24 million Americans. Educator Chester E. Finn, Jr. states, “Just five percent of seventeen-year-old high school students can read well enough to understand and use information found in technical materials, literary essays, and historical documents. Barely six percent of them can solve multi-step math problems and use basic algebra." ("A Nation Still At Risk," Chester Finn, May 1989, p. 18). http://www.useless-knowledge.com/1234/aug/article321.html

The USDOE estimates 40 million Americans 16 years of age and older possess what are called “Level 1” reading and writing skills. This means they can sign their name, but can't understand such basics as the instructions for programming a VCR, reading a map, or accurately fill out an application for a Social Security card.

Re: If you're serious...

Date: 16/7/11 22:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foreverbeach.livejournal.com
Do you think private school students are making up a significant percentage of the illiterates? Think about what that would mean. Their parents could send them to public schools "for free" (no extra out-of-pocket tuition expenses) but instead choose to pay tuition in addition to the taxes which fund public schools... and their kids have nothing extra to show for it. Somehow, I doubt that's the case.

Re: If you're serious...

Date: 16/7/11 22:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foreverbeach.livejournal.com
Absolutely. There's no doubt at all that it would.

Re: If you're serious...

Date: 16/7/11 22:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blue-mangos.livejournal.com
I'd be interested in learning how many of those are made up from students from poor areas. The ones who would be left even further behind if schools were all privatized.

Re: If you're serious...

Date: 17/7/11 02:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prog-expat.livejournal.com

From your third link:

Indications are that increases in adult illiteracy are cyclical. In the 1800s a large segment of the U.S. population was illiterate, particularly in the south where slaves and poor whites were denied access to schooling. By the early part of the twentieth century, just 2.2 percent of the population was considered illiterate. After World War II “There was a similar need to "remediate" the basic skills of returning GIs. In their case, too, education had been ineffectual in their first journey through the schools.” (Curran and Takata). Now with the advent of new technologies and the influx of so many immigrants—many who had no formal education in their country of birth—we again see a spike in illiteracy rates.

We hit 2.2% right after public schools started outnumbering private ones, before things went downhill by WWII, presumably recovered, and then went downhill again recently. Which would suggest institutional reform is the solution, rather than gutting the public education system altogether.

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