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Yes I know it's Rachel and therefore biased, so take it with a grain of salt. However if you have any facts that disprove what she's saying then I'd like to know. Seriously I do, because I don't want to believe that the GOP has sunk this low.
Otherwise she's managed to demonstrate both class warfare AND tyranny all in one douchebag, err governor.
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Date: 11/3/11 13:26 (UTC)I am not surprised with taking from the poor and giving to the rich, that's what they are doing everywhere, including Russia.
But to cinically ban all the elected bodies upon arbitrary declaration of the "state of emergeny" - in peace time - is really something monstrous.
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Date: 11/3/11 14:04 (UTC)The more interesting bit is after the break. The budget is cutting major amounts of aid to cities and towns. There's a bill that allows the governor to declare a town/city to be in dire financial straits, and appoint someone to oversee their recovery. Only that overseer gets to unilaterally cancel contracts, suspend collective bargaining, and, oh, right, dismiss elected officials.
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Date: 11/3/11 14:07 (UTC)Robocop
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Date: 11/3/11 13:46 (UTC)I'm not sure what that means in this context.
One odd thought: this is weirdly reminiscent of No Child Left Behind, which creates standards which are effectively impossible for schools to meet, eventually leading to dramatic interventions. I'm not sure that the comparison really teaches us anything, but it did jump out at me as I was watching the clip.
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Date: 11/3/11 15:11 (UTC)It means her ideology trumps her accuracy.
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Date: 11/3/11 17:34 (UTC)So to the extent that these small business owners are rich (some are, others barely even qualify as middle class) will no longer be double taxed on the profits of their business these are about "personal income"
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Date: 11/3/11 15:11 (UTC)Maddow also says he's targeting seniors, but it's only taxing pension income, which doesn't seem unfair. Social Security is not going to be taxed (http://news.michiganradio.org/post/state-income-tax-pensions), and the claim that the taxes are going to be increased on the poor is not true, as Snyder is only looking to halt the scheduled decreases for a time. No one, from the looks of things, will be paying more in income taxes. Not great, but Michigan's got a lot of problems thanks to Snyder's predecessors.
The kicker is the deductions, which impact everybody (http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/article/20110219/NEWS04/102190315/Deductions-targeted-under-Snyder-s-budget-plan-Michigan), not just the poor as Maddow claims/implies. Besides, many of these deductions go toward charitable donations, which poor people, generally speaking, aren't doing.
So no, Snyder is not taxing "old people and poor people and giving it away." He's looking to actually get Michigan off its death bed, and looking for everyone to buy into it.
As for the "financial emergency" thing, it's just the ability to put towns into a form of receivership. What Maddow (tellingly) doesn't inform her audience about is that certain triggers must be hit (http://www.detnews.com/article/20110310/POLITICS02/103100375/1022/local/Financial-manager-bill-passes-Michigan-Senate) to review these towns, not "when the governor says so." She can't tell you this because she's too busy demagoguing.
People really need to stop watching Rachel Maddow if they want to be informed, because this is getting ridiculous. Took me five minutes to do what her paid staff could not.
ETA: I started to post, then decided to look into it, and edited my beginning out that reflected my pre-investigation thoughts, in case you were wondering.
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Date: 11/3/11 15:14 (UTC)1) The Bill doesn't really say what Maddow says it does and she is confused or more likely deliberately spinning it to appear worse than it really is. Sort of like a video clip that has been going around facebook about the idiotic Georgia Law requiring police investigations in the event of a miscarriage. Yes, bad idea, worse law and absolutely unconstitutional in a dozen ways, however the MSNBC clip pushed it as a mandatory death sentence for women if they miscarry never mentioning what the bill actually said.
2) The bill does say what she says it does but it was not intentional but was rather unintended consequences of honest attempts to solve real problems created by not very well thought out verbage.
3) The bill does say what she says it does and this particular group of Republicrats is in fact this slimy and cynical and have learned their lessons of never letting a crisis go to waste from Obama and Co
One thing I think is funny though is her constant implication that there isn't actually a budget crisis in these states and that the Republicrats are manufacturing the whole thing. No Rachel, I have news for you, your buddies in the Public Sector Unions have screwed the states, counties, cities, and towns over thoroughly and it IS a problem, what the Republicrats are doing to resolve the problem may or may not be right but anyone who tries to argue that there is no problem is either willfully ignorant or outright lying.
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Date: 11/3/11 16:35 (UTC)If there is a budget crisis in these states it wasn't caused by the unions, who are more weak than ever (although that may change soon thanks to the GOP power grab). Conservatives need to stop this distortion and face up to reality.
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Date: 11/3/11 18:41 (UTC)My question is, given that some towns and residents will probably object rather strongly to being told that all those votes they cast in local elections don’t count any more, how does Snyder plan to deal with resistance from the locals?
The national guard, maybe?
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