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Ugh, did I get the names right? Well. I'm not much into world politics so how would I know (I lied, duh).

I'm used to this. Geneva regularly gets blocked by the global military armed to the teeth who don't want to allow the public's love reach the Chosen Ones. This place gets chosen for such events quite frequently, and for several good reasons.

One, Switzerland's strict neutrality. It's been there for more than 2 centuries. This has given this country an aura of impartial mediator of international issues, and a trusted diplomatic representative between countries. Many a serious problem have been addressed on this soil for that specific reason. Just to mention that Switzerland represents the US in front of Iran, since those two lovedoves have ceased diplomatic relations for some time.

Neutrality doesn't just mean non-participation in conflicts. There's the Swiss humanitarian and peaceful contributions, promoting international solidarity, things like that.

Of course Piden and Butin couldn't meet in either one's country. And what better neutral ground than Switzerland? And what better Swiss town for the purpose than Geneva? After all, this city already hosts 39 international institutions, organizations, bodies, a secretariat established under a treaty, about 750 NGOs, and 177 embassies. This has created a lot of expertise in trade, labor ,health, peace, human rights, migration, telecommunications, science, and sustainable development.

Mentioning science, there's CERN of course. And the LHC. Personally involved there, to an extent. Long story. I'm in love with the place.

In result of all this, Geneva is probably the world's most active diplomatic hub, with 3,400+ meetings taking place here annually, involving heads of stat, ministers, dignitaries and other prominent figures.

So I'd say there's a lot of symbolism behind this choice of place. In a sense, it signals the coming of the two most important heads of state back to a place of dialogue. We'll see how that goes in the long run. Although expectations are rather low, to be frank.

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Date: 16/6/21 19:09 (UTC)
asthfghl: (Къде съм аз къде сте вий!)
From: [personal profile] asthfghl
You're not Swiss, are you? I'm asking because you as an expat probably see things differently than the locals who've had to put up with all the hassle, the dignitaries, total surveillance, constant police lockdowns and all that stuff throughout their whole life.

Geneva comes across as too posh to my taste, tbh.
Edited Date: 16/6/21 19:10 (UTC)

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Date: 16/6/21 19:12 (UTC)
asthfghl: (Къде съм аз къде сте вий!)
From: [personal profile] asthfghl
Fair enough. Like my people often say, "I wish I had your problems".

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Date: 16/6/21 20:35 (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dewline
If there's a backup capital for this planet after New York, in my mind, Geneva is the first candidate in line thanks to that history and infrastructure that you've cited.

Wishing Geneva - and yourself - the best of luck in getting through this summit.

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Date: 17/6/21 20:30 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] mikeyxw
Dunno, whenever I start to reason out why something like this takes place in Geneva, I end up getting it wildly wrong. Rather than neutrality, international solidarity and such, it ends up that Geneva was chosen because it's Biden's favorite coffee shop is, Putin knows a great place to ride horses nearby, and the aids tasked to set this up on each side ended up with a bunch of Swiss francs left over from their last trip that they want to get rid of.

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Date: 18/6/21 18:30 (UTC)
nairiporter: (cool)
From: [personal profile] nairiporter
Habit could have that effect, yes.

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Date: 18/6/21 18:31 (UTC)
nairiporter: (Default)
From: [personal profile] nairiporter
Geneva is lovely at this, or any, time of the year. I've been there twice, once in summer and once in winter (briefly), and I absolutely love it. I can totally see why people would want to make their big meetings there.

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Date: 18/6/21 18:33 (UTC)
mahnmut: (Albert thinks ur funny.)
From: [personal profile] mahnmut
Two of the most boring world leaders have met at one of the most boring places on Earth, duh.

Just kiddin'. About the world leaders. :-P

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