[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I'm kind of surprised that we haven't had a post about the Zimmerman trial over the last few weeks, but the jury enters its second day of deliberations today, first full day. We could, theoretically, have a ruling today on the case.

A few links for those who may not have been following closely. I will happily add any other recommended sites for daily analysis of the case if they're posted in the comments.

FROM THE RIGHT:

* Legal Insurrection.

FROM THE LEFT:

* TalkLeft.

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Date: 13/7/13 15:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
Yes, this is why Trayvon should have heeded the warning from the Surgeon General about being black in America.

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Date: 13/7/13 15:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
Instead of standing his ground?

Speaking of looking alike, didn't someone in this community post a supposed photo of Trayvon that turned out not to be him at all?

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Date: 13/7/13 16:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
Maybe? I think that might have been the cartoon community.

No, I don't think it was.

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Date: 13/7/13 16:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
If that happened here, I suspect it was quite a while ago; I do not believe that any such picture has been posted here for months.

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Date: 14/7/13 08:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
I vaguely recall something here. Might as well have a couple of possible names in mind. (whistles)

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Date: 13/7/13 15:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Or he could have just gone home?

He was trying to do just that when someone shot him. Guns and the Bible.

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Date: 13/7/13 16:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
"The gun and the bible carved this nation out of the wilderness, Mayor Duke, if you want our guns, come out and get em"

I was cribbing a bit. Sorry, Pastor, it was irrelevant.

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Date: 13/7/13 16:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
He went to see why this dude with a gun was stalking him, not unreasonable.

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Date: 13/7/13 17:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Zimmerman didn't pull his gun until he was on the ground

Is there evidence other than Zimmerman's testimony that supports that?

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Date: 13/7/13 17:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
There's absolutely nothing to support the idea that Zimmerman had his gun out.

If so, then there is equally nothing to support the idea that Zimmerman had his gun effectively concealed when confronting Martin.

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Date: 13/7/13 18:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
He didn't have the gun concealed when he fired. That is all that is known.

You assert, perhaps correctly, that there is zero evidence that Zimmerman brandished his weapon at any point. If so, it logically follows that there is likewise zero evidence he had it effectively concealed until discharge.

Citing the evidence would be an effective rebuttal, I'd think.
Edited Date: 13/7/13 18:37 (UTC)

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Date: 13/7/13 19:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] notmrgarrison.livejournal.com
You assert, perhaps correctly, that there is zero evidence that Zimmerman brandished his weapon at any point. If so, it logically follows that there is likewise zero evidence he had it effectively concealed until discharge.


How does that work?

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From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com - Date: 13/7/13 19:42 (UTC) - Expand

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Date: 13/7/13 17:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
why on earth would you confront someone who is armed if you're not?

Exactly. He had no choice. I can tell when someone is packing fairly easily, its not at all a certainty that he didn't know Zimmerman was armed.

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Date: 14/7/13 04:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
He apparently had 4 minutes to walk about 80 yards to get home, and yet he chose to not do that but confront the creepy guy.

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Date: 14/7/13 20:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
right. Only white-looking, gun-toting, self-appointed neighborhood watch men get to do that.

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Date: 15/7/13 05:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Your comment is nonsensical, among other things.

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Date: 15/7/13 18:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
not in the slightest.

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