[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
During my years in college I toyed with the idea of working for the CIA in order to spy on the organization for the benefit of the American public. It was a tempting mission, but I decided against it. Some of my friends pointed out how I would not fit in anyway. Since then many insider accounts of the plight of CIA employees has convinced me that I made the correct decision. There is something about an organization where you have to check your brain at the door that does not sit well with me.

In his memoir of his time working at State with the Afghan Muhajeddin, Peter Tomsen recounts many actions on the part of the CIA that he felt showed a poverty of judgment. One of the smaller ones was the desire for the CIA to send ISI (the Pakistani equivalent to the CIA) representatives on a mission to buy back stinger missiles from the Muj. Tomsen opposed the presence of the ISI people on the grounds that it would send the wrong message to the Afghanis. Tomsen says that the CIA replied that they would not include ISI personnel, but Tomsen could not confirm whether they followed his recommendation or not.

Tomsen includes quite a bit of material that ties ISI to terrorism in the Muslim quarters of Central and South Asia. Their initials could easily stand for Islamists Supplying Insurgents. (This game of renaming organizations has come up with gems such as Fuck-ups, Boneheads, and Incompetents.) The involvement of ISI in terrorism is probably why they were admired so much by people like Reagan and Bush.

In our school we held a discussion of why dummies thrive in organizations like the CIA. One of our students pointed out that the admissions requirements tend to deter intelligent people. It is as if you have to kowtow to the flag in order to get in the front door. One of our guys said it was like the Masonic entrance requirement to express belief in the material Creator. Those who know better are simply turned away from the git-go.

Could you see yourself working for an organization with as many publicly documented disasters as has the CIA?

Re: Do they truly believe?

Date: 21/9/11 18:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
You think awfully small don't you?

Why shouldn't the same basic principals apply to a stationary universe?

Re: Do they truly believe?

Date: 21/9/11 20:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
On the contrary, an unmoved mover is the basis of modern-day science. There is nothing pushing planets, comets, and galaxies into orbits from a scientific viewpoint, it's an inanimate and mechanistic process.

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