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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14223673

The US has opened the door to trade sanctions on Iceland over its hunting of fin whales and exports of whalemeat.

Commerce Secretary Gary Locke has formally told President Obama that Iceland's hunt threatens the species, which is globally endangered.

The president has 60 days to give his response, which can include trade bans.


Since it started so much debate I decided to post this as a followup to my other post about whaling.

The question is, of course, if the US will actually hit Iceland with trade sactions. Since the president seems to be in a hardball mood I could see it happening. No doubt the GOP would us such an action to accuse the president of "hindering trade in these hard economic times." But if the US does do it my bet is that Iceland will cave. Their economy is a wreck and bad relations with the US is something they can't afford right now.

So for the president it seems to be the question of dealing with giving the GOP ammo leading up to an election year Vs scoring points with the enviromental lobby and the PR points that come from giving a European nation a whack with rolled up newspaper on the world stage.

I say we go for it!


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Date: 21/7/11 04:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
I imagine Iceland will stop the export trade. Otherwise the argument can be used for Japan, and I really can't see the US putting trade sanctions on Japan :P

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Date: 21/7/11 06:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Yep, this is why I imagine that Iceland will just move their practices in line with Japan. They can't afford to lose US trade, but it's going to be a hard argument to sanction Iceland for doing the same stuff as Japan.

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Date: 21/7/11 06:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com
And all of a sudden, Björk and Sigur Rós CDs are more expensive and harder to come by...

I wonder if Iceland's response will be to scale back to an acceptable level per the IWC. Though the article says "He recommends measures stopping short of a trade sanction," so I don't know if he wants to take it as far as sanctions. It appears that Norway is not bound by the moratorium because they have "objected."

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Date: 21/7/11 07:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com
I don't know...Wouldn't it be easier if we just scale back that volcano with the difficult name (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEEXY6HrQ6Y) to its earlier ash levels and turn the winds to south-western direction this time? This will teach you, people! (Nasty grin).

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Date: 21/7/11 16:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Yes, please keep that shit away from Euro shores, you bastards!

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Date: 21/7/11 07:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com
All political points arguments aside, the bottom line is: we deserve this. (We: Iceland).
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Date: 21/7/11 16:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raichu100.livejournal.com
Sarcasm? if so, agreed

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Date: 21/7/11 23:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
In that case, ban the hunting of female whales, so that only the bulls are killed.

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Date: 21/7/11 16:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] raichu100.livejournal.com
I hope we do it as well...

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Date: 21/7/11 19:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
For a moment i thought you had said Iceland vs Wales and i went to check the score. But no.

We would've kicked their arses anyway.

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Date: 21/7/11 23:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
Protectionism and talking tough to foreigners are vote getters, and Obama is in re-election mode, so this isn't a complete surprise. Reagan bombed Libya, Clinton bombed Kosovo, Iraq and an Aspirin factory in the Sudan, and Bush did a few things too. But with all the worthwhile battles to fight, with all the worthy opponents out there, couldn't Obama pick on someone his own size? Okay, slightly smaller. But still, the spectacle of the world's only superpower beating up Iceland seems a bit sad.

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