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Teri Adams, Head of Independence Hall Tea Party and School Voucher Activist:

Our ultimate goal is to shut down public schools and have private schools only, eventually returning responsibility for payment to parents and private charities. It’s going to happen piecemeal and not overnight. It took us years to get into this mess and it’s going to take years to get out of it.

In other words, Adams would like education to be, along with medical care, available only to those who can pony up the cash for it.

The article I’ve linked to includes a few quotes from people speculating about what drives the American right’s hostility towards public education. The ban on teacher-led prayer is invoked, along with the mercenary desire to funnel the money now paid into public schools into private hands.

I suspect it’s much more simple than that. Without universal education, the far right wouldn’t have to contend with so many pesky arguments about the facts of history, math, science, etc.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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What if there is no contract?

Then how are you using someone else's property? There is a contract.

Also, how long should it be after you physically leave a property (regardless of whether you die, abandon or are forcefully ejected from it) before the government, or someone else (e.g. a squatter) can take legal possession of it?

As it is now, whenever it can be proven that you are not the owner of it.

Then how are you using someone else's property? There is a contract.

Let's say hypothetically you discover that through some misunderstanding of ownership, a person had been using your property without your consent, believing themselves to be the rightful owners. Or maybe they knew they weren't the rightful owners, but had managed to obscure ownership sufficiently so that it appeared except on close examination as if the property was theirs.

They have extracted resources from it, farmed it, modified it, constructed property on it and generally used it to their benefit.

Would you be entitled to some greater or lareger proportion of their profits of that use?

As it is now, whenever it can be proven that you are not the owner of it.

Ok, so if you were genuinely the rightful owner of a piece of land, essentially nothing other than voluntary sale or transfer of possession could overturn that ownership?

Would you be entitled to some greater or lareger proportion of their profits of that use?

No. You would be entitled to compensation for the use of your property, which would be equivalent to what you would have reasonably charged them if you had known about it. There may also be room for punitive damages if you can show that they deliberately did it knowing that they weren't the owner, or that they make a habit of doing stuff without checking for ownership.

Ok, so if you were genuinely the rightful owner of a piece of land, essentially nothing other than voluntary sale or transfer of possession could overturn that ownership?

I can't think of any other way at the moment.

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