ext_306469 ([identity profile] paft.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2011-07-16 10:14 am
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They Could Always Go Work in Factories

Teri Adams, Head of Independence Hall Tea Party and School Voucher Activist:

Our ultimate goal is to shut down public schools and have private schools only, eventually returning responsibility for payment to parents and private charities. It’s going to happen piecemeal and not overnight. It took us years to get into this mess and it’s going to take years to get out of it.



In other words, Adams would like education to be, along with medical care, available only to those who can pony up the cash for it.

The article I’ve linked to includes a few quotes from people speculating about what drives the American right’s hostility towards public education. The ban on teacher-led prayer is invoked, along with the mercenary desire to funnel the money now paid into public schools into private hands.

I suspect it’s much more simple than that. Without universal education, the far right wouldn’t have to contend with so many pesky arguments about the facts of history, math, science, etc.

Crossposted from Thoughtcrimes

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Re: Public education is political indoctrination paid for by theft

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2011-07-17 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
The same way that socialists believe it. I don't know.

And to clarify, "Libertarian" includes a range of beliefs based on the same basic premise. What I've described is what montecristo holds to, which is the anarchic end of the range. Rasilio and I are on the minarchist part of the scale, which is that we acknowledge that not all people are good, so that there needs to be some kind of gov't and rules, but that it needs to be as small as possible and only doing things to protect individual rights and freedoms.

there are many who are so selfish that they would dominate the weaker within a short time.

There are no weaker. Everyone has exactly identical amount of power. Someone is only "stronger" because others are loaning them their power and because the "weaker" don't think they have the power they do have.

Re: Public education is political indoctrination paid for by theft

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2011-07-17 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
My God, this is Marxism's Bizarro cousin. This is the exact arguments Marxists use to say Stalinism and Leninism had nothing to do with Marx's 19th Century writings.
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Re: Public education is political indoctrination paid for by theft

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2011-07-18 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
It's observably true.
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Re: Public education is political indoctrination paid for by theft

[identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com 2011-07-18 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
If I could link you to my brain I would. It's my own conclusion from observation of the world in total. I am not in power and I recognize power dynamics just fine, and they all fit with this model.

Re: Public education is political indoctrination paid for by theft

[identity profile] rasilio.livejournal.com 2011-07-17 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
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<i"What I've described is what montecristo holds to, which is the anarchic part of the scale, which is that we acknowledge that not all people are good, so that there needs to be some kind of gov't and rules, but that it needs to be as small as possible and only doing things to protect individual rights and freedoms."</i>

Close, it is not quite that I think government is necessary but that it is inevitable. There will always be enough people actively desiring to transfer some of their power and responsibility to a leader to see to it that a government forms