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I can't think of many conspiracy theories I truly buy into - it'll be hard to fight this one though.

Epstein killed himself.

Nothing short of video footage showing him killing himself would convince me he did (even then I'd be 50/50).

Allegedly - this guy was sex trafficking kids for himself and high society. What is true and what isn't, who did and who didn't - we'll probably never know. If a tenth of the rumors are true, that's more than enough powerful people to shut this up.

What say you?

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Date: 10/8/19 16:40 (UTC)
johnny9fingers: (Default)
From: [personal profile] johnny9fingers
Not sure. Petronius opened his veins in his bathtub when ordered to do so by Caesar.

If any of the rest of us were in his situation it might just be the toss of a coin. Now it appears that Ghislaine Maxwell is in a similar situation. And this one may topple all the other dominos.

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Date: 10/8/19 18:55 (UTC)
johnny9fingers: (Default)
From: [personal profile] johnny9fingers
Not sure I’d want to go down that route given her dad committed suicide in difficult circumstances.

Suicide is the upper class way out. A bottle of whisky and a loaded revolver in the club library is traditional. But you don’t let the side down or dump other folk in the shit. Think Captain Oates.

It always helps if you top yourself with a bit of brio, obvs.

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Date: 11/8/19 15:50 (UTC)
From: [personal profile] jazzyjj
I just feel bad for the victims of this sex ring or whatever it is. A neighbor read me an article about it last night which appeared on his smartphone.

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Date: 12/8/19 07:34 (UTC)
johnny9fingers: (Default)
From: [personal profile] johnny9fingers
His crimes were despicable. And the associates in those crimes should be dealt with too.

My opinion is that at the meeting he had with his attorney just before he killed himself he was told the gig was up completely. He'd been conveniently taken off suicide watch if my information is correct, and he topped himself; but I'll await confirmation from autopsies etc.

It would be an awful thing to think that a noble attorney would have er, um, encouraged him to top himself. But the right framing of a conversation can have as much effect as any direct act of persuasion, as we all know.

OK, now we know there's an upper class pædophile ring with wide-raging membership amongst the seriously rich and famous. Is there an upper class murder group? I know that folk get their drugs and whores delivered to their doors; but I am beginning to wonder if some select groups of extremely wealthy folk haven't been extending their privileges to accommodate in their pleasures all the sins man is capable of. There is an undercurrent of de Sade about all of this I find personally disgusting. Combined with the new fascism we may yet get to Pasolini's Salo as the new model for our polities.

It is all so damnably vile. If I wasn't so old I'd consider becoming a policeman. I'd want to stop folk abusing their privileges and wealth to commit despicable crimes. But I know I'd be assigned riot control duties, or some such. After all, law and order mainly means keeping the streets safe for the right sort of political protest.

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Date: 12/8/19 08:30 (UTC)
johnny9fingers: (Default)
From: [personal profile] johnny9fingers
He wasn't taken off suicide watch. The prison was seriously understaffed:

https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/08/11/epsteins-guards-worked-extreme-ot-shifts-morning-of-death/

Oh well. Another win for small government and underfunding our public sector.

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Date: 12/8/19 10:06 (UTC)
mahnmut: (We're doooomed.)
From: [personal profile] mahnmut
Gee, that Epstein thing escalated quickly...

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